wow, typing a wall of self-entitlement text is free on the internet. can't even read past the first paragraph. lot's of self-entitled people here that thinks they are entitled free development for all kinds of shit routers.
take a number? lol
Did you purposely misunderstand what I said? Or are you simply trolling? No, as you stated, you simply couldn't be bothered to read the full reply that was meant for another snarky (guest) poster. I never said I was "entitled" to anything - disagreeing or discussing something with someone does not equate to a feeling of "entitlement" - nor did I imply or personally feel that way. I made a feature request, not unlike literally hundreds of others. That is all. Careful, your persecution complex is showing.
You may not remember, but we have had correspondence before on this forum and I have always respected your work and opinion, if not always agreed with it. My apologies for my prior lengthy post that was meant for another. As I said, it was not a statement of entitlement, only an answer to what I took to be a bit of snark by someone who looks, in my opinion, to be using these forums as nothing more than their own trolling grounds. It was not aimed at you or your colleagues. I just suffer from an allergy to purveyors of bulls**t.
But TomatoUSB isn't a "stand-alone FTP server". It is a router which happens to have some additional functionality tossed in.
Obviously, I understand this. Not denying or debating this. In point of fact, what I was referring to was other desktop GUI-based software packages for FTP. And while I also understand that TomatoUSB is not conceptualized as desktop software specifically, in practice the GUI interface portion of the firmware is meant to make the experience easier for the average user, instead of forcing them to work strictly in command-line. What I was suggesting was simply a continuation of this concept.
Definitely not typical router usage. Most routers don't have an active sysop standing by. Heck, most servers don't have an active sysop standing by.
My point was not about having a sysop standing by, so much as technical support if needed. That functionality is already built into the logging portion of Vsftpd. What I was really asking for was a way to monitor it without having to wade through the logs, making it more convenient for anyone who uses it regularly.
Not an interesting task, nor would it be widely useful to anyone but yourself. Sounds like it would need to be tailored specifically to your own personal needs, too.
Addressing the first portion of your statement, the part about whether or not it would interesting: I can see how you would feel that way since FTP is a rather antiquated protocol that most folks don't use anymore. But, the question then bears asking, if it is not at all interesting or relevant, what was the intention of FTP being included in the firmware to begin with? Further, how do others use it if not to host files and documents for themselves and, possibly, others? How am I using this differently than anyone else? That's not a rhetorical question, by the way. I am actually curious.
As to the second part, whether real-time monitoring of the FTP would be useful to anyone but myself is, in my opinion, debatable. As I stated in my prior post, the functionality that I was requesting has been felt to be needed by several other authors of GUI-based FTP software over the years. I fail to see how being able to monitor the function of a running FTP server in a more convenient manner would NOT be useful. Can I truly be the only one who uses FTP, anymore? *chuckle*
Demand? No. Request for specialized work? Yes.
Again, I will not debate that this has never happened, only that I have never been privy to it. As for "specialized" work, how is what I am asking for, functionality that can be found in most other FTP packages in use today, specialized? I am not trying to be combative, here. I honestly don't understand this. The potential is already there. I am not asking for anything new, specifically, only a slight tweak to what already exists. How is this any more specialized than requests for the addition of "USB Android Tethering Modules," "Sick Beard / media downloader" or "USB Webcam support," which specifically has been being discussed since 2010? So far as I have read, no one has asked for compensation for the help and support that has been discussed and offered in these ongoing threads.
Not quite. More like "for the fun of it".
Which is what I was actually trying to say. My wife has pointed out that I can get a little wordy and long-winded when I debate with people. My honest apologies for that. But this was the point I was trying to make. I have always admired those who program for "the fun of it" because it is how I approach my own limited bouts of programming and tinkering. I too do it for "the fun of it." I just lack the experience in this particular field, so came to the experts with my idea.
It is generally not built and enhanced by someone identifying a desire and asking for somebody else to volunteer to do the work.
Again, I have to, in this instance, respectfully disagree. There are 18 pages with 343 threads and 2349 individual posts requesting and discussing features of this kind in this part of the forum alone. The heading is, "Request for features," and the sub-heading is, "Something missing that you would like to see in Tomato USB? Let us know." Since there was no clarification specifying that ideas or requests had to be relevant to the majority of users only, and in practice many have not always been, I took the spirit of what was expressed at face value. Over the years I have posted on many forums like this and done much the same. In my experience as a user, Open Source tends to be community driven with improvements added as thought of and/or deemed needed, viable or interesting. This was the basis of my suggestion.
In the end, I think the real debate on this feature request comes down to, as you said, it not being interesting enough for anyone one with expertise to pay attention to. This I understand and can accept. But, I wouldn't call the idea of making it more convenient for those of us who do use the FTP portion of TomatoUSB regularly, "specialized." I was making a feature request, in a forum that was specifically set aside for that purpose, not a demand for free work. I apologize if anyone mistook the one for the other. I do not specifically feel "entitled" to anyone's action on this matter. It was just a suggestion.
As I will be beginning courses at my local technical college in the next few weeks for an associate's degree in programming, I will probably end up adding this functionality myself at some later date, since I do enjoy projects of this type. I had just hoped to cut the length of time I will need to become proficient enough to do this on my own, in order to get the functionality I seek.
Thank you for your time,